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Post by color on Oct 15, 2010 20:28:13 GMT -5
It's 3:30 on the morning here. Think I should go to bed. But I will be back here tomorrow. Good night and thank you all for your help!
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Post by color on Oct 15, 2010 20:29:41 GMT -5
and Dominant White means that the offsprings will be like him? white?
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Post by kaimelstable on Oct 15, 2010 20:31:45 GMT -5
Not necessarily. Dominant White horses sometimes display color as well but some are competely white. Look at GQ Santana for example: www.horse-genetics.com/extreme-sabino.htmlAlso the gene varies depending on the breed.
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Post by Ashlee on Oct 16, 2010 1:27:22 GMT -5
It looks to me, like what others have said - that the horse in the pictures is a Black Few Spot. Because he is a few spot and both parents are Lp that means that he is homozygous for the Lp gene, which means that all of his foals will be some form of Appaloosa. If you want to create a horse that could plausibly be this color both parents would definitely have to be Appaloosa and of course the would have to be colors that could produce a Black base coat when bred together. So the genes would have to be E? aa. The question mark means that there could be a dominant E or recessive e in that spot. So EE aa is a Homozygous Black and Ee aa is a Heterozygous Black. As for Dominant White, it can be a little confusing because of the term "dominant", but no - it does not necessarily mean all of the foals sired by or out of that horse will carry the Dominant White gene. Also realize that there are different types of White genes which are named from W1-W11, however many of these genes are only displayed in a certain breed. For example, the W3 mutation was discovered just a few years ago in the Arabian stallion R Khasper, who is the horse that the mutation originated with and it can only be found in horses going back to this stallion. Hope that helps Color?
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Post by color on Oct 16, 2010 6:21:45 GMT -5
A little. But I will do like this and that will be enought work for me: change sire to High Limit and have Impressive Black Gold as dam. Have no idea but now I want her to have that gene you talking about and there she got it. But how will that gene effect her offsprings?
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Post by Shelly on Oct 16, 2010 9:00:24 GMT -5
Are you talking about Dominant White, or the Leopard Complex, "Appaloosa Gene"? If it is the later, horses that exhibit any form of Appaloosa pattern will carry the Lp gene. If they're few spot they are homozygous for the gene.
The reason why Dominant White can be confusing is that the name can be misleading. It is dominant - meaning that only one copy needs to be passed on to be expressed. At least, that was my problem at first lol.
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Post by kaimelstable on Oct 16, 2010 10:17:29 GMT -5
First you need to tell us which gene (Leopard or Dominant White) you are talking about so we know which one it is
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Post by color on Oct 16, 2010 10:39:20 GMT -5
Leopard gene.
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Post by Shelly on Oct 16, 2010 10:52:06 GMT -5
You want Impressive Black Gold to have the Leopard gene, so that this particular foal can be a few spot? Is that right? It looks like she is a solid Appaloosa, so she doesn't carry the Leopard gene. Without knowing more about her sire, I can't say if it's possible for her to carry the gene or not. Since her dam is a Quarter, she would be heterozygous for the Leopard gene, in which case she would pass the gene on roughly half of the time. The only way for her to inherit the Leopard gene would be if her sire carried a copy of it.
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Post by Ashlee on Oct 16, 2010 14:03:07 GMT -5
Shelly is correct, we do not know for sure if Impressive Black Gold carries the Lp gene. Because you have her listed as Appaloosa, I would guess that you are 'pretending' she does. But we cannot know for sure unless we're positive the sire is an Appaloosa, but since she is listed as Appaloosa - the only place she could get the gene is from her sire - let's just assume she has the Lp gene.
It's very possible to have a solid Appaloosa with the Lp gene. Some of the ways you can tell a horse is Appaloosa, even if it's solid is if it has striped hooves, mottled skin or white sclera around the eye.
Like I said though, we can assume she carries the Lp gene if her sire is indeed an Appaloosa - but if he isn't then she would not be able to carry the gene.
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Post by color on Oct 16, 2010 15:58:55 GMT -5
Her sire is appaloosa but I've lost the link to him, his also a sim horse.
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Post by Ashlee on Oct 16, 2010 16:11:55 GMT -5
As long as her sire is Appaloosa you can just assume she's a solid Appaloosa but carries the Lp gene.
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