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Post by Volurin on Mar 25, 2011 22:04:55 GMT -5
So, what is your opinion on breeding your SIM horses and ponies to real life horses and ponies?
As in: Sim Horse X Native Dancer = Sim Horse
EDIT: Also, your opinions on having the real sire or dam's ABP link in your horse's pedigree?
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Post by C&H Ranch on Mar 25, 2011 22:38:33 GMT -5
I generally don't do it anymore, and didn't really do it much to begin with. The exception was when I created/bred a Pintabian in 2007. There just wasn't really in any SIM at the time, so I used a RL stallion to a C&H Ranch mare. But to play it safe and to keep it sim-oriented, I just prefer to find a stallion in SIM. There's always one out there that will fit the needs I am wishing to fulfill, I just have to look. It could be within HF, and if it's not (rare) then I bring my search to All-Sim (awesome plethora of available stallions). Call me old fashioned, maybe (lol) I just prefer sim lines overall.
As far as having a link provided, I did provide a link at the bottom of my above mentioned horse's page in a disclaimer statement. But not in the mare's general information.
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Post by Tessa on Mar 26, 2011 6:14:57 GMT -5
I've never done it and I agree with C&H. With all the stallions available in the SIM world, I can always find what Im looking for
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Post by Pia on Mar 26, 2011 7:21:19 GMT -5
i dont like it, and dont do it
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Post by Volurin on Mar 26, 2011 8:55:16 GMT -5
Alright, I was just wondering since I was thinking about breeding a few of my ponies to real life horses and ponies.. I dunno, it is sort've difficult being the only all pony breeder since I can't really breed my rarer ponies with other people's ponies (I DO want purebreds sometimes. x.x)
So you guys think that if I breed my ponies to a real life horse/pony, that it will lower people's interest in the produced foal(s) and the foal(s) will not likely be purchased?
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Post by Melissa on Mar 26, 2011 9:34:42 GMT -5
I understand where you're coming from with wanting rare lines, but I wouldn't cross one of my mares directly with a RL stallion. I'd rather get a package with a RL stallion x RL mare, and then incorporate that mare/stallion into my breeding program once s/he has a show record under their belt. You're not the only pony breeder here either. I have a Chincoteague Pony stallion (CH Ocean Storm) that would compliment your Welsh and/or Chincoteague Pony Mares if you're interested
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Post by Hanna on Mar 26, 2011 13:17:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't breed my sim horses to real life horses.
I do use their allbreed links in my horses' pedigrees.
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Post by C&H Ranch on Mar 26, 2011 14:16:18 GMT -5
Volurin - There's quite a few pony breeders in HF, and even a very active pony association. You might post a wanted ad in the All-Sim part of our forum to just sort of throw it out there and see what they have in breeding stock. horsesforever.proboards.com/Another, and more recent, reason I shy away from using RL horses like that is what HF went through. A lady was really angry with us for one of our members using her mare as a dam for one of her SIM horse. I think it was a created horse with a RL sire X dam, but nevertheless we had the member change the mare and cleared the problem up with the owner. I personally think the lady overreacted because I would be honored if someone chose my horse for their bloodlines, but whatever.
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Post by Hannah M. on Mar 30, 2011 17:03:10 GMT -5
I have done it a very long time ago when I first started Simming and didn't have many horses to breed. But I wouldn't do it again, I much prefer to do either like Melissa said (create a horse) or find one already in sim.
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Post by Volurin on Mar 31, 2011 18:44:37 GMT -5
Alrighty, thanks for the input everyone!
I have another quick question... Do you breed unshown or minimally shown stallions and mares to shown ones? Or do you prefer getting records on both of the parents?
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Post by C&H Ranch on Apr 1, 2011 12:23:59 GMT -5
I prefer getting records on both the parents before I breed. I feel I should sort of emulate what should be done in real life, you know...prove them against horses of like breed, then try to make even better babies than the parents themselves. At least mainly with my stallions. That's not to say I haven't bred an unshown horse - sometimes I get excited and want a baby from them now, lol. But I try not to. Luckily because I age 1 sim year = 1 RL year, have one foal crop a year for C&H in January, and I start showing my foals as weanlings they all generally have at least some halter championships and/or titles under their belt by the time they are of breeding age.
The exception to my rule are broodmares. I have many mares that I have purchased that weren't really established as show horses (maybe a few titles, if that) but they had great bloodlines and possibly an established progeny record. Their purpose at C&H is to make babies for me, lol. I also focus more on showing my stallions than my mares - they have longer show careers generally. There are a lot of my mares that I like to take them all the way to the top titles in HF and the AHA because they do really well, but the ones that just don't really bring the titles in I retire to brood. Isn't it funny how even in sim and we use randomizers for shows, sometimes some horses just bring in the titles consistently while others do not?
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Post by indiza on Apr 1, 2011 12:43:58 GMT -5
Well, I am late for the party... lol. Question #1 - I do this sometimes, but generally only with breeds that are very rare in SIM. I don't like creating stallions specifically to breed to my mares, as I have enough horses as it is and don't like to breed unproven horses (which I'll talk about more in answer to question #2 ). If it's a mare of a super rare breed, I'll just look for a RL stallion who seems like he would be a good match. If it's a mare of a different breed that I need a stallion for, I will use a RL stallion only as a last resort if I can't find the perfect stallion in my own barn or someone else's, and then only if the mare is totally RL bred herself, top to bottom. I'm very picky about bloodlines, so it does sometimes happen that I can't find a stallion in SIM who has the exact mix of bloodlines I want, plus the performance record I'm looking for, etc, etc, etc. Question #2 - I definitely prefer to bree proven horses to proven horses. With my Thoroughbreds especially, I am very picky, as I don't participate in randomized races... All of them are in Stretch Drive-based races, so the stats of the parents do definitely impact the stats of the foals. If I have a mare who's a fantastic sprinter, for example, but falls apart after a mile, I will try to cross her on a stallion who has demonstrated ability at classic distances or longer. With other breeds, I'm not as picky... but unless the horse is a super rare breed and I don't have many options, I will pick a proven, established, and well known horse to breed to over an unshown and unproven one 99% of the time. Of course, sometimes I just fall in love with a young/unshown horse for whatever reason and want a baby right away... lol. But I like building up my lines with horses whose names are recognized in the SIM community! I think it really builds the relationships between simmers when we all strive to breed and show horses who really make a name for themselves, if that makes any sense.
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